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Post by Midsize Jake » Tue Feb 04, 2020 10:06 pm

Eric Corbett wrote: ↑Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:22 pm
When did this become the Vigilant show?
I actually don't understand why he's keeping this up, other than maybe sheer boredom with actual Wikipedia stuff, which (again) I'm hoping is only temporary.

That said, Mr. Abd is a very unusual character in Wikiland, in that he not only eagerly responds to all criticism of himself (at great length), he actually promotes it by republishing everything bad anyone ever says about him on other websites — which he controls — and commenting on the criticism extensively. I assume this is some sort of quasi-intellectualized attention-getting strategy, almost like he's a self-actualizing Streisand Effect Agent, except that Barbra Streisand was at least a good singer.

Unfortunately, that puts us in a bind: The "right thing to do" in this case would be to lock, hide, or delete this thread, even though it's in a non-public forum already and we shouldn't have to. We've gone along with it so far because we (or I, at least) felt that people needed a place to vent about WikipediaSucks.co, given that WikipediaSucks.co members have rarely had any compunctions about venting against us in forums that are publicly-visible. But this is exactly what Mr. Abd wants; this kind of nonstop attention inspires him, and his idea of "the right thing to do" (in nearly all cases that I've seen) is to prove everyone else wrong, no matter how long or how much effort it takes him. I'm afraid this is what makes certain people detest him, though of course he can't accept that himself.

So unless we all somehow agree to stop, then I guess as long as this thread is open, people will post to it whenever Mr. Abd says or does something objectionable — and since that's pretty much a daily occurrence, this thread will continue to grow, indefinitely. It's a kind of outward-spiraling shitfest, I'm afraid.

Post by Eric Corbett » Tue Feb 04, 2020 10:56 pm

So because it's Vigilant it's OK.
I get it.

Post by Randy from Boise » Tue Feb 04, 2020 11:10 pm

[quoting the above in toto]
There ya go.
Now, add some value to the site by making astute comments, doing some analysis, being funny, engaging in banter, throwing up some memes, linking to some ongoing hot spots on Wikipedia, telling stories, grunting about politics, etc. and you'll build up cred. Do that for years and rack up thousands of edits and you can become unblockable for the things that some things that wouldn't fly with drive-by posters — because you will then be A NET POSITIVE.
I need not explain this to you.
One of my email friends recently made this comment to me. I will paraphrase. Ninety percent of what Vigilant accomplishes is excellent and can't be done in any other way; ten percent is abusive and unspeakable. To which I replied: "Yes. The key is to keep the excesses of the ten percent reined in."
We've all got the potential to be valuable here or to be a pain in the ass that needs to be pushed off a pier. Being valuable here is work, just like being valuable at Wikipedia is work.
tim

Post by Eric Corbett » Tue Feb 04, 2020 11:20 pm

Randy from Boise wrote: ↑Tue Feb 04, 2020 11:10 pm
[quoting the above in toto]
I get your point, which is that I'm wasting my time here, so I will waste no more of it.
I wish you well in your hopeless effort to change Wikipedia nevertheless..

Post by Randy from Boise » Tue Feb 04, 2020 11:29 pm

Eric Corbett wrote: ↑Tue Feb 04, 2020 11:20 pm
[quoting the above in toto]
Well, you're 1400 posts in; I wouldn't say you're a noob. You already get it, I'm sure.
I do think you need to either love Wikipedia (and hate the defects and abuses and parasites that plague it) or truly hate Wikipedia and want to see it destroyed to be here though. Those who are indifferent tend to move on with their lives.

Post by Randy from Boise » Tue Feb 04, 2020 11:29 pm

Eric Corbett wrote: ↑Tue Feb 04, 2020 11:20 pm
[quoting the above in toto]
Well, you're 1400 posts in; I wouldn't say you're a noob. You already get it, I'm sure.
I do think you need to either love Wikipedia (and hate the defects and abuses and parasites that plague it) or truly hate Wikipedia and want to see it destroyed to be here though. Those who are indifferent tend to move on with their lives.
tim

Post by Vigilant » Wed Feb 05, 2020 2:00 am

Eric Corbett wrote: ↑Tue Feb 04, 2020 10:56 pm
So because it's Vigilant it's OK.
I get it.
Maybe when you suck less, you'll get YOUR very own thread.
Try harder to suck less.

Post by Vigilant » Wed Feb 05, 2020 2:04 am

Eric Corbett wrote: ↑Tue Feb 04, 2020 11:20 pm

[quoted in toto]
Image: Bye Felicia.
P.S. Not one person reading your newest Diva quit believes you'll leave. Prove us all wrong for a change.

Post by Vigilant » Wed Feb 05, 2020 2:11 am

Midsize Jake wrote: ↑Tue Feb 04, 2020 10:06 pm
Eric Corbett wrote: ↑Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:22 pm
When did this become the Vigilant show?
I actually don't understand why he's keeping this up, other than maybe sheer boredom with actual Wikipedia stuff...

It's confined to one thread. Because Abd is a net.parasite with a long track record of winning through attrition. He joins a forum. He runs everyone out of patience with his word salad logorhea. He gets kicked out in the name of sanity. He bad mouths that forum on the next forum he infects. I'm breaking the cycle here.

Post by Moral Hazard » Wed Feb 05, 2020 4:32 am

Vigilant wrote: ↑Tue Feb 04, 2020 7:06 pm
[quoting in toto]
Sucks is a super-collider of crazy.

Post by Vigilant » Wed Feb 05, 2020 6:40 am

[quoting above in toto]
Well, it's easy when the target you're working with is so dense...

Post by Vigilant » Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:40 am

Post by Vigilant » Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:12 pm

A new debacle emerges (coldfusion science woo)
Abcessed Buffalo Dick wrote:
Feynman, in his lectures, 1961-63, and I was there
His obsession with mentioning Feynman, who almost certainly wouldn't have remembered some random freshman dropout, reminds me very much of Rudy Giuliani's continual refrain; "a noun, a verb, 9-11!"
Brought up in any all all contexts, regardless of applicability as some sort of talisman that prevents questioning the intoner.
Here's a ProTip: Nobody cares what lectures a college washout of limited means sat in on nearly 60 years ago. it doesn't inform anything.
It's simply a rudimentary sort of virtual signalling that makes Abandoned Butt Dildo believe that doing his pathetic Appeal to Authority fallacy shtick impresses anyone.

Post by Vigilant » Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:33 pm

Everyone besides Abd is lying again. Why is EVERYONE else in the universe besides Abd always lying?
His 'peer reviewed paper' is garbage.
Check the stats. It's been cited by ZERO other papers.
The only way that happens is that a paper is vanity published.
My graduate thesis is cited over 200 times in other work and it's just not very good when viewed from the remove of time.
Anomolous Bird Droppings knows, deep in his wounded heart, that his research is garbage and that the cold fusion field is saturated with hucksters, scammers and science woo.
Every one of his previous 'businesses' has ended in similar disarray and shame as the 'build a cold fusion reactor in your bedroom' scam that Abd was trying to profit from, with shame, denials and revisionist history at length.
While he'll no doubt write another 9000 words trying to exhaust all readers into an comatose ennui, the overall track record for this misanthropic failure is clearly one of tedious, predictable failure.

Post by Vigilant » Sat Feb 08, 2020 4:32 pm

Post by Vigilant » Sat Feb 08, 2020 7:19 pm

B&
For the lulz.

Post by Vigilant » Sun Feb 09, 2020 5:26 pm

Lomax screams into the void at himself
MODERATORS
Abdlomax
aka honeypot

Post by Vigilant » Sun Feb 09, 2020 5:36 pm

It would never shut up. Never.
God damn, Abd, lay off of the crack pipe.

Post by Vigilant » Sun Feb 09, 2020 5:42 pm

Oh god, the insanity...
Watch Abd lie and thrash and try to wiggle away wrote:
Lay out your hypotheses, Abd. What would be the Null Hypothesis here? What are the plausible Working Hypotheses that come to mind? Are any of your Working Hypotheses especially novel? How would you go about confirming, supporting, refuting, or falsifying any (or all) of them? What imaginable outcome would generate an exclamation of "Aha!" —Caprice 17:47, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

No, I'm not going to answer those questions, not yet. You brought the story here, Caprice, I'm asking you to tell us why, to connect it according to your intention, not mine. Are you the teacher on this page? Or are you the learner? Or what? About civility? Barry, may I respectfully suggest that your history indicates some kind of civility problem? If what I plan comes to pass, this whole exchange (here, on Cold fusion pages, and off-wiki where permission exists) will be organized, deconstructed and analyzed. for what public educational value it contains; probably here (WV), on pages where it's relevant. There are some important issues that have been brought up, such as how the scientific method is used and abused. Ultimately, I suspect that this will be of great interest and import, and, in fact, I'm planning a journal article out of some of the issues raised (and other related material). But we are in the middle of it, and this may not readily be visible to all. Time to settle and gain perspective is important, and most of us have Other Things To Do. --Abd 19:59, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Take your time, Abd. There's no rush. If and when you are ready to disclose how you interpret and construe the metaphors, analogies, and parables, I reckon I can wait until then to learn how you employ these particular tools for thought. Model-based reasoning is not a very common or popular mode of reasoning, and I've learned to be patient while people wrestle with unfamiliar modes of reasoning. I can probably use the time to think about how Montana Mouse goes about constructing other fabulous stories. —Caprice 20:21, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
Abd is out of his element here and he thrashes like an eel in a net.

Post by Midsize Jake » Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:17 pm

Vigilant wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2020 5:42 pm
Abd is out of his element here and he thrashes like an eel in a net.
Well... "Caprice" is actually Barry "Moulton (T-C-L)" Kort in that discussion, so if he was arguing with him, it would've been kind of like the War of the Gargantuas of time-wasting over-intellectualized bloviation, conveniently redefined as "incivility" by Wikipedians because they didn't think they could get away with having an explicit policy against time-wasting over-intellectualized bloviation.

image [caption:] I'll teach you to hypothesize about theories of mind without providing a control thesis in advance of your trivial speculations, you non-professional discussion participant!

Post by Vigilant » Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:31 pm

Anilingus Buys Dollars banned me from his little subreddit.
I suspect strongly that he then rubbed one out.
Lol

Post by Randy from Boise » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:21 pm

Vigilant wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2020 5:36 pm
[quoted in toto]
23,000+ words. Unfinished.
tim

Post by Vigilant » Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:04 am

Post by Vigilant » Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:34 am

Abd being a dick
This right here is why you never give this old grifter any power.
He got made a mod and has done nothing except strut around with a puffed out chest, belittle others and badly lose a slap fight with me.
Easy to see why he got the tools stripped on wikiversity.
Nice work, sucks.

Post by Vigilant » Tue Feb 11, 2020 5:45 pm

The steel toed, hobnailed boots of the moron oppression force!
In a moment of unintentional hilarity...
Das Fruedian slippage! wrote:
I've been plenty of asshole admins
Sucks' sole remaining function seems to now be some sort of kiosk based, self-help, primal scream therapy station for Ahm Bein' a Dick...
Artist's rendition here...
Image [don't bother, waste of time of a guy in a suit screaming about something]

Post by Vigilant » Wed Feb 12, 2020 4:25 pm

Living rent free in your head, little buddy...
You're totally over me which is why you've got 11 threads on sucks where you wail at the sky...
[1] ["yeah right" gif used before]

Post by Vigilant » Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:14 pm

What living in Abd's head is like for me...
video of genie displaying power and caught in lamp
It seems to just kill you that you can't hide what you really are from r/wikiinaction...
Sorry, not sorry.

Post by Moral Hazard » Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:00 am

This thread raises questions, for example:
Is torturing bugs as a child psychopathic?
image of child focusing sun on bug
[useless videos of ants being incinerated]
[2] [3]

Post by Moral Hazard » Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:13 am

Midsize Jake wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:17 pm
Vigilant wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2020 5:42 pm
Abd is out of his element here and he thrashes like an eel in a net.
Well... "Caprice" is actually Barry "Moulton (T-C-L)" Kort in that discussion, so if he was arguing with him, it would've been kind of like the War of the Gargantuas of time-wasting over-intellectualized bloviation, conveniently redefined as "incivility" by Wikipedians because they didn't think they could get away with having an explicit policy against time-wasting over-intellectualized bloviation.
gif of gargantuans fighting
Kudos on your reference to the War of the Gargantuas (T-H-L), which premiered the Maser (T-H-L) cannon.
movie poster
video of War of the Gargantuas
music video from monster movies
[all useless unless you like old Really Stupid movies]

Post by Vigilant » Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:58 am

I think less in terms of ants more like this.
video ad for varmintgetter burrow explosion equipment

Post by Moral Hazard » Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:44 am

Destroy All Monsters (T-H-L).
Image [Bill Murray and gophers made from plastic explosives]
Video Gopher business from Caddyshack]

Post by Vigilant » Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:50 pm

Is it anthropology or xenobiology when dealing with the Ant Boy Death
video casting a fire ant colony with molten aluminum]

Post by Katie » Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:40 pm

Abd appears to still be friendly with Nathan Larson, as this archived version of his talk page on the Cold Fusion Community wiki shows: link. 69.244.230.1 (T-C-L) is without a doubt being used by Nathan Larson: the exact same style of writing and the subjects he discusses gives it away. Abd surely knows this, as he's been friends online with him for a long time, he could have reverted the edits and told him to stay away if he didn't want to talk to him anymore.

Post by Vigilant » Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:03 pm

Katie wrote: ↑Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:40 pm
[quoted in toto]
sick:

Post by Vigilant » Fri Feb 14, 2020 5:18 pm

I'm sure their membership numbers will skyrocket any time now....
popcorn:
If Ottava Rima and Oliver Keyes had a baby ...

Post by Vigilant » Fri Feb 14, 2020 5:58 pm

Poor Abd is downvoting me on WiA to make himself feel better.
Delicious buttery tears.

Post by Vigilant » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:39 pm

Valentine’s Day: saddest day of the year for Abd.

Post by Midsize Jake » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:06 pm

Vigilant wrote: ↑Fri Feb 14, 2020 5:18 pm
I'm sure their membership numbers will skyrocket any time now....
Hmm... I just checked the new registrations again, and that guy apparently didn't try to register here. I'd like to think we would have been at least somewhat more welcoming to him than that, even if his treatment by the Wikipedians was completely predictable.
I guess having the name "Wikipedia Sucks" does give you some extra Google-juice advantages, at least for folks in the process of being convinced that it sucks but who are probably too angry and disillusioned to think of a more inclusive search term.

Post by Vigilant » Sat Feb 15, 2020 8:27 am

Abd is becoming even more insane. You can watch his decay by the day.
You are also welcome here, except for one thing: presenting thin evidence with misleading conclusions doesn't fly well here. But I did and do Assume Good Faith. That is why I spent substantial time investigating.
We know you didn't.
I am Wikipedia user Abd, hated by the factions, "community banned" after I abandoned the project in 2011, and more recently WikiMedia Foundation office-banned for . . . for what?
I have it on good authority that you were WMF banned for pedophile advocacy.
Sucks is a more serious critical site than Wikipediocracy, my opinion and is associated with projects to actually build useful content.
IRONY! wrote:
Because we have open registration, we get our share of loons and crazies -- and normal people driven a bit crazy by abuse on Wikipedia.
Fat, pompous and stupid is no way to go through life, Dennis.

Post by Katie » Sat Feb 15, 2020 4:06 pm

Abd is trying to cover up that the IP address he was talking to is Nathan Larson, at least if the public logs he has showing he's made the edits Larson did invisible in the revision history are any indication: link, although it's still possible to see the edits themselves by going on Abd's talk page. Larson doesn't seem very happy that Abd has blocked him, accusing Abd of censoring him, according to this: link.

Post by Vigilant » Sat Feb 15, 2020 5:38 pm

:applause:
Nice work.
WiA is heating up.
I wonder how much longer sucks.co will want a pedo enabler as a mod...

Post by Vigilant » Sat Feb 15, 2020 5:57 pm

[https://www.csindy.com/coloradosprings/nathan-larson-says-he-wont-seek-custody-of-baby/Content?oid=3515681
Abd's online friend wrote:
For instance, he thinks that it's acceptable for adults to engage in sexual acts with children of any age so long as there is what he refers to as "consent." Larson also feels pedophiles are simply a minority that is unfairly discriminated against.
:sick:
Jesus Fucking Christ, what the fuck is wrong with you, Abd?

Post by Katie » Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:01 pm

Vigilant wrote: ↑Sat Feb 15, 2020 5:38 pm
[quoting the above in toto]
It's not my work, one of the people who's been arguing with Abd/trolling him found it first, it's on the GenderDesk comments on the blog post about Abd and Wikipedia Sucks. Nathan Larson runs a forum whose URL is "pro-rape dot com", and the forum is called 'Raping Girls is Fun". :sick:

Post by Vigilant » Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:03 pm

Katie wrote: ↑Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:01 pm
[quoting the above in toto]
What the actual fuck?!
Makes you wonder what is going on in Eric Barbour's head that he supports this guy....

Post by Katie » Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:08 pm

Vigilant wrote: ↑Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:03 pm
[quoting the above in toto]
Eric Barbour let Tyciol (T-C-L), a friend of Nathan Larson, and who is also a paedophile, incel, and neo-Nazi, post on his forum as "tyc". He even offered him a tip on re-introducing stuff about a bris to the article about the Pittsburgh synagogue shooting, unaware that Tyciol planned to use it to justify the attack, here: link. EDIT - this is after Vigilant's post: Tyciol also posted about Perverted Justice (T-H-L) in this Wikipedia Sucks thread: link

Post by Vigilant » Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:22 pm

Katie wrote: ↑Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:08 pm
[quote in its entirety]
Wow.
Just wow.

Post by Vigilant » Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:29 pm

Overlap between Lomax and Larson as early as 2012.
This is going to turn out to be a thing.
This is a snapshot of a page on BeyondPolitics which is another failed Lomax thing that Larson participated on.
Lomax is going to found to be deep in the enemy's counsel.
Dear lord.

Post by Katie » Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:42 pm

Eric Barbour also displays ignorance about why Kompowiec2 was SanFranBanned here: link, and says that his edit histories appear "rather innocuous". I don't think a paedophile writing about how to get away with stuff on the Dark Web, stenography, and internet anonymity is "rather innocuous".
By the way, Abd worked with Keith Henson (T-H-L), who has been accused by his daughters of molesting at least four girls, two who were his daughters: link. Abd admits to working with Keith Henson here: link, even being the administrator for a time of a society Keith and his then-current wife founded.

Post by Katie » Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:50 pm

Vigilant wrote: ↑Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:29 pm
Overlap between Lomax and Larson as early as 2012.
This is going to turn out to be a thing.
This is a snapshot of a page on BeyondPolitics which is another failed Lomax thing that Larson participated on.

Lomax is going to found to be deep in the enemy's counsel.
Dear lord.
Abd proudly admits that Larson was one of his mentors on Wikipedia when he first started editing, here: link. He also called Larson "one of the smartest Wikipedians I've met", in this thread: link and also said that Larson wasn't a paedophile when the thread was resurrected in 2012.

Post by Vigilant » Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:56 pm

There's no end to Abd's involvement and support of pedophiles....
Sick to my stomach.

Post by Vigilant » Sat Feb 15, 2020 7:27 pm

Cry some moar.
[–]Abdlomax [score hidden] 18 minutes ago
So, u/adescuentechable, if trolls are creating many threads with my name, I should be banned? I'm not doing it! -- and I'm not even arguing with them, all I do is tag throwaways. It's been many, many such accounts, trolls -- over 40 since the beginning of this year -- , and the real problem here is absent moderation. I only respond to real redditors, like you. And with u/WOVigilant who has made it his entire mission in life to attack me on Reddit, all response has been reduced to a single word. Where are the mods?
When they see the proof that you're a fucking pedophile enabler, they're going to ban you so hard...